TUNIS - Adel Ben Mabrouk has seen the inside of Italian prison cells from Milan in the north to Benevento in the south. He also spent eight years behind the barbed wire of a certain U.S. military prison on the island of Cuba.
Last February, a Milan Judge convicted this 40-year-old Tunisian of criminal association with terrorist intent, but then freed him from jail, citing the time he'd spent incarcerated at Guantanamo as not democratic and the conditions inhumane. Mabrouk is a survivor of Afghanistan, where he was arrested at the end of 2001 for his alleged associations with Al Qaeda.
I met him at his house in Tunisia. By chance, it was this past Monday, soon after Osama Bin Ladens death had been announced. On the television screen in his living room, France 24s Arabic channel was broadcasting the images of the collapsing Twin Towers, Bin Laden, and the stories of some of his many victims.
Looking at the screen, with a strange smile on his face, Mabrouk says: The Americans they are smart and bastards at the same time. He then picks up the remote control, and starts looking for the Italian Rai TV channel, in vain. I love watching Italian soccer. How did Inter of Milan do yesterday? What a team.
I ask him what Bin Laden meant for him: Martyr? Madman? Killer?
He was a respectable man. Even his enemies should recognize that he deserved respect, Mabrouk responds. He was a man of honor.
After eight years in Guantanamo, American authorities handed Mabrouk over to Italy. In 2005, Italian authorities had issued an arrest warrant accusing him of international terrorism, falsification of documents, aiding illegal immigration, theft and drug trafficking.
Following Milan judge Armando Spataros decision to free him, Mabrouk was expelled from Italy. He now lives in the notorious Zaharouni neighborhood of Tunis, an area that is too dangerous to frequent at night.
Mabrouk spends his new life between the local mosque and the garage he runs with his brother. People who pass in front of the garage stop to say hello. They show a sort of respect and admiration for him. Mabrouks brother, who convinced him to accept this interview, had also been arrested in Afghanistan, accused of terrorism and jailed for seven years in Tunisia.
Prior to his release, Mabrouk spent a total of 10 years in jails. He has been incarcerated in the Italian prisons of Pesaro Asti, Fossombrone, Macomer, Benevento, and Milan, as well in the United States-run Guantanamo and Kandahar military prisons in Afghanistan.
His tales are related to life in jail. He speaks about the fetters used in Pakistan. Its like in the times of Christ. They put rings around your ankles which are connected by a bar and another bar across the legs. You have to raise the bar in order to walk, he explains.
Does his body have the signs of all this tortures? Maybe, but I dont realize it. Perhaps Guantanamo inmates like me are all crazy without knowing it, he says with a dry laugh. Its only when we are out surrounded by people, and we see them looking at us, that we realize.
Every now and again, Mabrouk falls into impenetrable silences. He had said after the second question, Look, its better if I just speak. I dont like to answer questions, because I feel like if I am back there. I was interrogated 200 times in Guantanamo, by the CIA, the Italian special forces and those bastards of our Tunisian secret services -- Ben Alis men. I knew all the questions. They were always the same. There were three questions to which I would never reply: what do you think about kamikazes? How did you become a radical Islamist? Have you ever fired a gun?
On the question of his faith, he denies that radical imams he met during a stint in an Italian jail for drug-dealing had an impact on him. This is bullshit. I just had many things to confess, thats all. It was like to be born again. We Muslims have God inside, our faith comes from our souls I stopped taking drugs, started working as a barber, then as a driver for a company in Cernusco. I had even applied for a regular Visa, but there was that old conviction for drug trafficking. Always the same
He finally opens up about Afghanistan and why he went there in February 2001 It was a place where good Muslims felt at home. I was scared that the Italians authorities would hand me over me to Ben Alì, accusing me of being a radical Islamist. [In Afghanistan] I lived in a shelter for foreigners. The Taliban took us in, they gave us a home.
After 9/11, when the Taliban regime fell apart, Mabrouk crossed the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan, under the US bombing. There, Pakistani authorities arrested him and 150 other people. They sold me to the Americans for $5,000 just because Bush needed people to fill up the jails as part of the war on terrorism.
He was jailed in Guantanamo. Look, in Guantanamo there was a lot of good, not just evil. I would like to write a book about it. The title would be Guantanamo, Between Good and Evil. Yes, there we understood who the Americans really are, and we also understood our faith better. We were from 50 countries, and 80% of us learned the Koran by heart. That is not a prison. It is a war camp where psychologists and psychiatrists are in charge. If you do not have faith, you cannot survive in those conditions. I could tell about some amazing gestures, even from the guardians. In Guantanamo I understood one thing: the human being is good, even there.
photo - JTF Guantanamo